If we were at war with the British for example, we wouldn't need to use waterboarding or harsh interrogation because historically the Brits didn't hide among their women and children shooting RPGs at us, nor did they behead our civilians on tape. They didn't plant road bombs or hide caches of IEDs that weasely jihadists could go pick at like little old ladies at a vegetable market.
The enemy we fight isn't just any enemy. They do all of what I said previously and more. Any evil thing you can think of, they do. Putting a man prone and dribbling water on his covered face isn't the same as putting bamboo shoots under his fingernails. That would be torture.
A Senior CIA lawyer advised Pentagon officials about the use of harsh interrogation techniques on detainees at Guantanamo Bay in a meeting in late 2002, defending waterboarding and other methods as permissible despite U.S. and international laws banning torture, according to documents released yesterday by congressional investigators.
Torture "is basically subject to perception," CIA counterterrorism lawyer Jonathan Fredman told a group of military and intelligence officials gathered at the U.S.-run detention camp in Cuba on Oct. 2, 2002, according to minutes of the meeting. "If the detainee dies, you're doing it wrong."
This from the CIA that leaked information to make the President look bad for political reasons. Even they came to the conclusion that waterboarding is permissable because the perception seems to be that it doesn't cause death (or blood or broken bones, presumably).
Until the people of this nation realize that this enemy warrants all our weapons and techniques, we'll be doing a lot of wheel spinning. We just don't have time.
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